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Right, I agree which is why I set it up as a single speed w/ disc brakes =
in the first case. My commute is reasonable using only 1 gear although =
when I want to take the bike on a faster ride, or load it up with gear =
and take it on a longer ride, I run into problems. I want to avoid have =
derailleurs because of the maintenance issues so I think the Internal =
geared 8-speed alfine disc hub w/ 32H is nearly my only option. I could =
also just get another 650b internalhub gear wheel made and then be able =
to swap out single speed and multi-speed.=20



Dan

On May 2, 2010, at 10:48 AM, Kathryn Hall wrote:

> Having gears on a commuter is nice - the wind isn't always behind you =
:-) Internally geared is great for all the obvious reasons, but you =
might consider fewer gears than 8 - the KISS principle applies, I think, =
to durability.
>=20
> On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 8:39 AM, Daniel Valente <danvprod@gmail.com> =
wrote:
> I am thinking of rebuilding the rear wheel of my Surly 1x1 commuter =
bike to add an internal-geared hub, the Alfine 8 with the Versa VRS-8 =
Internal Hub Shifter...
>=20
> http://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=3D32397
>=20
> Although since I have my cetma front rack coming it may be better to =
set it up more like a kogs-porteur style so that the bars don't get in =
the way of the stuff on the rack.
>=20
> I get bored easily with my bikes and am in need of another project..
>=20
> This is kinda what I'm going for:
> =
http://www.flickr.com/photos/aalpern/305932849/in/set-72157594223239775/
>=20
> I like the way Adam's bike is setup.
>=20
> Thoughts? Here is how mine looks right now:
> http://www.fattiresrangefinders.com/17916641
>=20
>=20
> Thanks
> Dan
>=20
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"><div><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse: =
separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: =
medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; =
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auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; ">Right, I agree which is why I =
set it up as a single speed w/ disc brakes in the first case. My commute =
is reasonable using only 1 gear although when I want to take the bike on =
a faster ride, or load it up with gear and take it on a longer ride, I =
run into problems. I want to avoid have derailleurs because of the =
maintenance issues so I think the Internal geared 8-speed alfine disc =
hub w/ 32H is nearly my only option. I could also just get another 650b =
internalhub gear wheel made and then be able to swap out single speed =
and multi-speed.&nbsp;<br><br></span>
</div><div><br =
class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div><br></div><div>Dan</div>
<br><div><div>On May 2, 2010, at 10:48 AM, Kathryn Hall wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite">Having =
gears on a commuter is nice - the wind isn't always behind you :-)&nbsp; =
Internally geared is great for all the obvious reasons, but you might =
consider fewer gears than 8 - the KISS principle applies, I think, to =
durability.<br>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 8:39 AM, Daniel =
Valente <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:danvprod@gmail.com">danvprod@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> =
wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt =
0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
I am thinking of rebuilding the rear wheel of my Surly 1x1 commuter bike =
to add an internal-geared hub, the Alfine 8 with the Versa VRS-8 =
Internal Hub Shifter...<br>
<br>
<a =
href=3D"http://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=3D3=
2397" =
target=3D"_blank">http://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.=
php?id=3D32397</a><br>
<br>
Although since I have my cetma front rack coming it may be better to set =
it up more like a kogs-porteur style so that the bars don't get in the =
way of the stuff on the rack.<br>
<br>
I get bored easily with my bikes and am in need of another project..<br>
<br>
This is kinda what I'm going for:<br>
<a =
href=3D"http://www.flickr.com/photos/aalpern/305932849/in/set-721575942232=
39775/" =
target=3D"_blank">http://www.flickr.com/photos/aalpern/305932849/in/set-72=
157594223239775/</a><br>
<br>
I like the way Adam's bike is setup.<br>
<br>
Thoughts? Here is how mine looks right now:<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.fattiresrangefinders.com/17916641" =
target=3D"_blank">http://www.fattiresrangefinders.com/17916641</a><br>t
<br>
<br>
Thanks<br>
Dan<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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Here's an IGH group that's very informative. I joined last year. Pretty
low volume, high signal/low noise.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Geared_hub_bikes/



On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 8:52 AM, Daniel Valente <danvprod@gmail.com> wrote:

> Right, I agree which is why I set it up as a single speed w/ disc brakes in
> the first case. My commute is reasonable using only 1 gear although when I
> want to take the bike on a faster ride, or load it up with gear and take it
> on a longer ride, I run into problems. I want to avoid have derailleurs
> because of the maintenance issues so I think the Internal geared 8-speed
> alfine disc hub w/ 32H is nearly my only option. I could also just get
> another 650b internalhub gear wheel made and then be able to swap out single
> speed and multi-speed.
>
>
>
> Dan
>
> On May 2, 2010, at 10:48 AM, Kathryn Hall wrote:
>
> Having gears on a commuter is nice - the wind isn't always behind you :-)
> Internally geared is great for all the obvious reasons, but you might
> consider fewer gears than 8 - the KISS principle applies, I think, to
> durability.
>
>
> On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 8:39 AM, Daniel Valente <danvprod@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I am thinking of rebuilding the rear wheel of my Surly 1x1 commuter bike
>> to add an internal-geared hub, the Alfine 8 with the Versa VRS-8 Internal
>> Hub Shifter...
>>
>> http://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=32397
>>
>> Although since I have my cetma front rack coming it may be better to set
>> it up more like a kogs-porteur style so that the bars don't get in the way
>> of the stuff on the rack.
>>
>> I get bored easily with my bikes and am in need of another project..
>>
>> This is kinda what I'm going for:
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/aalpern/305932849/in/set-72157594223239775/
>>
>> I like the way Adam's bike is setup.
>>
>> Thoughts? Here is how mine looks right now:
>> http://www.fattiresrangefinders.com/17916641
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>> Dan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> 650B mailing list
>> 650B@bikelist.org
>> http://phred.org/mailman/listinfo/650b
>>
>
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Here&#39;s an IGH group that&#39;s very informative.=A0 I joined last year.=
=A0 Pretty low volume, high signal/low noise.<br><br><a href=3D"http://grou=
ps.yahoo.com/group/Geared_hub_bikes/">http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Geared_=
hub_bikes/</a><br>
<br><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 8:52 AM, Dani=
el Valente <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:danvprod@gmail.com">danv=
prod@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" s=
tyle=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204=
); padding-left: 1ex;">
<div style=3D"word-wrap: break-word;"><div><span style=3D"border-collapse: =
separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; f=
ont-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacin=
g: normal; line-height: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; whi=
te-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;">Right, I agree which is why I set it =
up as a single speed w/ disc brakes in the first case. My commute is reason=
able using only 1 gear although when I want to take the bike on a faster ri=
de, or load it up with gear and take it on a longer ride, I run into proble=
ms. I want to avoid have derailleurs because of the maintenance issues so I=
 think the Internal geared 8-speed alfine disc hub w/ 32H is nearly my only=
 option. I could also just get another 650b internalhub gear wheel made and=
 then be able to swap out single speed and multi-speed.=A0<br>
<br></span>
</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Dan</div>
<br><div><div>On May 2, 2010, at 10:48 AM, Kathryn Hall wrote:</div><br><bl=
ockquote type=3D"cite">Having gears on a commuter is nice - the wind isn&#3=
9;t always behind you :-)=A0 Internally geared is great for all the obvious=
 reasons, but you might consider fewer gears than 8 - the KISS principle ap=
plies, I think, to durability.<div>
<div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 8:39 AM, Daniel Valen=
te <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:danvprod@gmail.com" target=3D"_b=
lank">danvprod@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmai=
l_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204=
, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">

I am thinking of rebuilding the rear wheel of my Surly 1x1 commuter bike to=
 add an internal-geared hub, the Alfine 8 with the Versa VRS-8 Internal Hub=
 Shifter...<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=
=3D32397" target=3D"_blank">http://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product=
_details.php?id=3D32397</a><br>
<br>
Although since I have my cetma front rack coming it may be better to set it=
 up more like a kogs-porteur style so that the bars don&#39;t get in the wa=
y of the stuff on the rack.<br>
<br>
I get bored easily with my bikes and am in need of another project..<br>
<br>
This is kinda what I&#39;m going for:<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.flickr.com/photos/aalpern/305932849/in/set-7215759422=
3239775/" target=3D"_blank">http://www.flickr.com/photos/aalpern/305932849/=
in/set-72157594223239775/</a><br>
<br>
I like the way Adam&#39;s bike is setup.<br>
<br>
Thoughts? Here is how mine looks right now:<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.fattiresrangefinders.com/17916641" target=3D"_blank">=
http://www.fattiresrangefinders.com/17916641</a><br>t
<br>
<br>
Thanks<br>
Dan<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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/phred.org/mailman/listinfo/650b</a><br>
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>Redlands, CA<br><br>&quot;Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to=
 be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout i=
n a gym.&quot; =A0~Bill Nye, scientist guy<br>


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