Archive-URL: http://search.bikelist.org/getmsg.asp?Filename=tandem.10310.0502.eml Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 09:58:26 -0700 (PDT) From: SANTANAINC(AT)aol.com Subject: [T(AT)H] CARBON De-mystified Part 2 of a post from Bill at Santana. In order to understand some distinctions between the Beyond and frames that appear similar, here are nine salient differences First, in the process of being pressure-cured, carbon fiber tubing gets a controlled (smooth) side formed against an impermeable mandrel or mold, and an uncontrolled (uneven) side that results when gasses and voids are flushed out. With the standard method, the carbon is cured while sandwiched between a solid mandrel and heat-shrink tape. When the tape comes off a rough exterior remains. A more expensive way to produce tubes is "inside out" or "molded" construction where carbon is wrapped around an inflatable mandrel and locked in a solid cavity. In this case the carbon is cured within a high-pressure and high-temperature mold---very similar to the method used by Reynolds to build our 500g Ouzo-Pro carbon tandem fork. Because the rough outer plies of a cheaper mandrel-wrapped tube must be partially destroyed (ground away) in order to produce a uniform exterior, a molded tube with the same weight and diameter can test 20% stronger. While many of the best framesets now include molded carbon forks and stays, Santana and Titus are, as yet, the only builders using molded frame tubes. Second, a molded tube allows advanced geometric shapes. While Ben Serotta, for instance, clearly understands the importance of an externally-tapered downtube (a concept he pioneered 15 years ago), his carbon composite frames can't incorporate this advantage. Because of proprietary molds, Santana's Beyond not only includes a Serotta-inspired tapered downtube, it's the first carbon tandem with an oval bottom tube. Third, the inflatable mandrel allows a carbon tube to be internally double-butted. Frames built from double butted tubing (no matter what the material) can be 25% lighter without increased risk of failure. In addition to being lighter and/or stronger, a double butted frame is also more comfortable. Double butted carbon tubes are another Santana/Titus exclusive. Fourth, in addition to internal butting near the ends of each tube, the inflatable mandrel also allows added internal layers of unidirectional "stripes" of carbon at the right and left edges of our tubes. These thickened edges provide greater lateral stiffness while damping out vertical harshness. No other bicycle frame tubes (in any material) share this feature that is exclusive to Santana. Fifth, the largest advantage of our molded tubing is IsoGrid --- a skeleton of Kevlar-wrapped carbon that is affixed to the mandrel before the other layers. The resulting tube with its internal lattice is not unlike an airplane's fuselage---where the thin skin is supported by an underlying network of supporting ribs. In the case of an IsoGrid tube, however, the application of heat and pressure permanently bonds the Kevlar/carbon ribs to the carbon skin. Sixth, just as metals come in different gauges; sheets of carbon come in different ply weights. The thinnest plies, made from finer strands, can be built into tougher and lighter tubes. Further, additional layers allow a wider range of tuneability. Over 95% of the carbon sheeting used by the bicycle industry is "150" or higher FAW (Fiber Arial Weight). A very few items, including Reynolds' Ouzo Pro tandem fork, use super-premium 120 FAW carbon. Our Beyond uses ultra-exotic 90 FAW. The downside of thinner plies? Each sheet is more expensive and a higher number of plies means increased labor to produce the tube. Where else can you buy frames built with 90 FAW? Good question! Seventh, just as "metal" includes a wide family of materials with various properties, "carbon" describes a range of complex hydrocarbons. Most carbons used in the bicycle industry are standard modulus---considerably less expensive than titanium. A few companies use intermediate modulus --- as expensive as titanium. High modulus carbons are exceptionally rare, and are too expensive for bicycle frames. But because the stiffness difference between standard and high modulus is a whopping 48%, Santana has decided to break the rules. Eighth, just before the numerous layers of Kevlar/carbon IsoGrid ribs, unidirectional edge strands, butting plies and 90 FAW high modulus carbon are placed into the mold, a short section of thinwall titanium tubing is slid part way onto each extreme end. During the high temperature and high pressure molding process these titanium ends become permanently fused to the carbon. The resulting Bi/Fusion tube is all-carbon except for the short titanium tips. Note: While IsoGrid and Bi/Fusion are independent technologies (that are owned, registered and patented by VyaTek Sports---www.vyatek.com), the tubes used by Santana and Titus are IsoGrid AND Bi/Fusion. In short, IsoGrid makes a carbon tube stronger and more damage resistant; Bi/Fusion makes a carbon tube weldable. Ninth, to produce similar looking frames Merlin and Serotta glue carbon tubes into pre-welded titanium lugs. At the Santana and Titus workshops, there are no pots of glue. Instead, the Bi/Fusion tubes are mitered, and TIG-welded directly to each other. Because TIG joints are both stronger and lighter than glued joints, the process used by Titus and Santana is superior. Think of it this way: while glued-together aluminum frames were popular 15-20 years ago (Vitus, Alan, Trek, and many others), these heavier and/or weaker frames are no longer being produced. Summary. While tandem buyers will naturally want to compare our new carbon Beyond with previous exotic frames built by Santana, Seven and Calfee, the numerous advantages of IsoGrid and Bi/Fusion technologies are undeniable. For instance, when weighed on an accurate scale the Beyond frame is at least 15% lighter than the lightest previous carbon frames and 20% lighter than our titanium frames. When stressed on a precision testing jig the Beyond is stiffer than the stiffest frames built from steel or aluminum. And beneath our testers' delicate derrieres, the Beyond is supremely comfortable---most have rated it "twice as comfortable" as the tandem they currently own. Mark again: "Very cool technology but I'm still waiting to see the cost..." My reply: $9695 will get you a uniquely efficient and comfortable sub-30 pound tandem with a lifetime frame warranty and proven components. Gram shavers and competitors will be able to wring out an additional five pounds. Either way, you cannot buy a faster and lighter tandem at any price. Bill McCready PS: Because tandeming is a reliable indicator of an evolved lifestyle, spending more signifies advanced intelligence. PPS: Your neighbors already think you're crazy. Why not confirm it!